The Fertility Mind Podcast

Unleashing the Power of Belief Coding with Vickie

Jessica Friesen Season 1 Episode 29

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Imagine uncovering the power to heal limiting beliefs that may be acting as hurdles to your success, fertility, and so much more. With belief coder Vickie by our side, an intriguing healing modality that combines the power of various energy healing techniques like reiki, kinesiology, CBT, and matrix re-imprinting. Whether you're battling pain, anxiety, stress, depression, or seeking improvement in job interviews and relationships, this episode will offer insights into how belief coding can be a game-changer.

Vickie's journey through fertility challenges led her to a combination of NLP, hypnotism, acupuncture, and reiki, to meeting a monk who helped her connect with her husband and use visualization and sound beats for nourishment. Diving deeper, we explore how belief coding can be used to rewrite our beliefs, deal with societal pressures related to fertility, and make the impossible possible.

However, the magic doesn't stop there. We also delve into how our beliefs shape our lives and the profound difference it can make when we change them. This episode is not just about rewriting beliefs; it's about embracing self-expression, empowerment, and breaking societal stigmas. We talk about the significance of community and how there is room for everyone. So join me as we embark on this enlightening journey with Vickie, and learn how you can transform your life by reshaping your beliefs.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Fertility Mind podcast. I am your host, jessica Friesen, a certified fertility mindset coach, a sound healer and an international best-selling author. My mission for this podcast is to give you weekly episodes where you hear my own success with IVF and how mindset and manifestation changed it all for me. You will also hear from my guests who share their success stories in the fertility world. I want you to know that you are not alone. Even when things feel tough and when things feel like they aren't going your way. The tools and techniques you will get in this podcast, I know, can change everything for you too. So thanks for being here with me today and let's dive in. Hello and welcome back to another episode. I have Vicki here with me today and she is a belief coder and she is an absolute beautiful, beautiful soul. We've just been talking before. I pressed record and my heart is just completely open and I'm blessed that she's here with me today. So, vicki, will you introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about belief coding?

Speaker 2:

Oh hello. Thank you so much for that lovely introduction, jessica. I know we've had a real good nata, haven't we? Yes, so belief coding is a natural healing modality that is going global it is already in America, interestingly enough and it's a healing modality that heals any limiting beliefs that hold anybody back in life. So I am very passionate, obviously, about working with fertility, but it heals. There's nothing I don't know that it doesn't work with. It works amazing with pains and inflammations. I've healed so much pain that I used to hold in my body. It works with anxiety, stress, depression, confidence, inner beliefs. It has the opposite effect where we can also work with, for example, if people want to go for job interviews or they want a desire in life or relationships, we would find out if it was energetically aligned. Does that make sense to be able to work with you so we could remove any energetic blocks that are actually in the way from what you desire? So it can work in that effect as well. It's got lots of different healing modalities in it. I'm one of the first 15 belief coders in the world, I'm really proud to say. I think there's about maybe 1500 of us now, so it's grown so quickly in the last two years.

Speaker 2:

What belief cording includes is a lot of energy healing. I used a lot of cosmic healing in there. Most of the belief corders are reiki attuned as well, so we send a lot of healing out. It uses kinesiology it's got CBT, eft matrix, re-imprinting psychology, various modalities, and what it does is belief cording gets to the root of the trapped emotion. Does that make sense? We're full of different experiences that have happened throughout our lifetime and some of those experiences, our subconscious is maybe panicked. Do you know anything about subconscious? It works with the subconscious really. Do you know anything about the subconscious, jessica?

Speaker 1:

I just know that our subconscious is completely programmed but it's on autopilot. We don't Breathing and walking and sleeping. Those are the hard drive.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it's the hard drive and whether we're actually aware of it or not, we're in our subconscious part of our mind body 95 to 97% of the day. So by working with the subconscious, with belief cording, we can find out what if there's a trapped emotion in there. And I always say to people there's three. So say if me and you would do, If we were having a belief cording session, I would say to you, Jessica, there's going to be three of us in this session and there would be you, there would be me and there would be your subconscious. And I don't have the answers. Interest me enough. At first you won't have the answers, but your subconscious does. So we tap in through you to your subconscious to get all the answers and then I'll guide you and you're going to heal yourself in that memory moment in time. It's got NLP as well, so it's a bit like hypnotherapy, but we're going back to certain experience or memory in your lifetime. We can go past life as well, which is amazing. It just depends where your subconscious is going to take us. And somewhere along the way there's a memory that kind of got stuck in time or just felt unsafe. So by us going back to that memory where you've maybe created a trapped emotion, and giving that memory what it needed in that moment in time. It could be, Jessica, age seven, you may have been, I don't know. You may have been told off by your teacher and your subconscious has jumped in to protect you and in that moment in time your subconscious felt unsafe and if anything similar happens along your lifetime from that incident, it's going to trigger you. So, by us going back to a particular memory, giving it what it needed in that moment in time, then making it feel 10 out of 10, amazing, recording in new beliefs, new memories. In that moment in time, Jessica, age seven, your old memory is then released, that energetic shift and block, and we record it with empowering new beliefs that your subconscious now accepts and beliefs from that. The shift that takes place is just incredible and that old belief or old trigger no longer bothers you. So it's interesting all our different experiences from life create who we are right in this moment in time and sometimes they felt a little bit unsafe. So, with belief code, and we just go straight back to the root cause of it, which is the memory, and give it what it needed and even if you don't know what it needs. I've got a tool bag as big as this room and imaginary tool bag that I can improvise and make, make younger self or inner child feel absolutely incredible before we empower it and cord in new positive beliefs in that moment in time. So it sounds pretty out there and incredible and it really, really is.

Speaker 2:

But I believe that belief coding actually found me and after my daughter started senior school year seven I always loved helping people but I always used to say I'm going to do something for myself, because I'd always worked in the family business and and you know I was always helping everybody else sort of speak and I always used to say, do you know, when my daughter starts secondary school, I'm going to do something that I love doing. And I must have manifested it right because four days after I found myself getting on a train and going to Sheffield to the first ever belief coding. It was a better training course and I didn't know why I was there because when I got there I was sat amongst all these life coaches who'd been doing their job forever and I was like, oh my goodness. So at first I came back and I just started working on all my own insecurities, which was a lot.

Speaker 2:

I had a bin bag and more, and then from then, I saw a huge change in myself Everybody around me did. By removing all the limiting beliefs and my insecurities that were holding me back. I realized how powerful it was and I just had to. I had to share it and work on other people. So I love helping people find them true selves again, going back to them without before I don't know society and conditioning and beliefs got the hands on everybody and conditioned us the way that we all are. So, yeah, I love empowering people and helping them find themselves again, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1:

That's incredible. So where did belief coding originate? Cause you said you're one of 15.

Speaker 2:

So talk a little bit about that, jessica Cunham. She is the CEO, she is the founder. She's amazing. She had been. She was trained up in all these different modalities and she said when she used to go to clients and heal them in whether it be NLP, cbt, eft, tapin she said she could just never get to the root of anything. So by all the modalities that she was trained in which is what belief coding includes she brought in different elements. A little bit of emotion code is in there as well. Actually, she brought in all the different elements and combined them into belief coding to make this phenomenal modality.

Speaker 2:

We've got professionals in the community who have been. There's one lady who has been a psychotherapist for 20 years and she doesn't use anything but belief coding. Now We've got nurses and doctors and it's healing so many people. I've got another friend who is a fibromyalgia warrior and she no longer has it and she has just had case studies going on at Liverpool University where she has used belief coding on some case studies and these three people at the start of the case studies were all fibromyalgia and classed as disabled.

Speaker 2:

And after three months of working with my friend Jules, the three people are no longer classed as disabled anymore. They are cured of the fibromyalgia and that is just by going to all the trauma work that was within them and working through it, releasing all that energetic shifts. Obviously a lot of other positive things, like bringing in a room of therapy oils and positive affirmations and meditations and other holistic modalities. But these three people are no longer classed as disabled anymore, so they're wanting more case studies to make it more worldwide and so everybody knows about it, instead of everybody just getting prescribed drugs and more medication and things that doesn't often help the person themselves inside, if that makes sense. So, yeah, it's just a more holistic, natural approach.

Speaker 1:

So is Jessica. Is she from the UK or where does she live?

Speaker 2:

She's from the UK. Yeah, she's from the UK and yeah, she has an immense story about her subconscious and how that had protected her most of her life. She'd actually been. She didn't realise until her 30s that she'd actually been abused as a child. So her subconscious has protected her by not showing her. So this is how it come about and all of a sudden she started getting flashbacks and this is when she went down a real spiritual journey and so she's so passionate about healing people and how clever the subconscious is and how it protects us to keep us safe.

Speaker 2:

But sometimes, by keeping us safe, it's not because it's sometimes like keep us all in fear and because it's frightened of what's on the other side. It doesn't experience what's on the other side of fear. So our subconscious is very good at keeping us all in fear, if that makes sense, because it likes to keep us safe. So, yeah, does that make sense? Wow, yeah, yeah, absolutely interesting. But when you do believe Corden and you go back to certain memories and in that moment in time I'm holding the space for you, I'm guiding you, but it's actually you, the client, who is healing that memory, asking the inner child, younger self, what it needs, I'll send energetic cosmic healing to that moment in time, because in the quantum field there's no kind of time or space. We can still send healing. So yeah, it's just, it's really, really, really magical.

Speaker 1:

It is, and I think this is like this, just who. I'm excited because from my studies that I've done, I've learned so much about our beliefs and how they impact us and it wasn't. I guess I can share with anyone that's listening today. The universe works in incredible ways, and how I came across to meet Vicki in my morning study group. Just one of the ladies was mentioning she had won a session with Vicki and it was about belief coding and she shared that Vicki had gone on a fertility journey and I thought, oh, I'm gonna message Vicki. I would love to know more about belief coding and I would love to know. I just I truly believe in sharing any positivity than I can around fertility. And so, anyway, I connected with Vicki and we got talking and I thought I am absolutely going to use her services because we are all holding beliefs that hold us back, whether it's in a personal, professional, any type of relationship.

Speaker 1:

And just, I had been journaling for a couple of weeks now saying there's some inner beliefs that I've been holding and it's energy that I know it's stuck and I know that from my sound-tailing background and I just thought I can't find this blockage, I don't know where it's originating, for me to remove this. So I've been journaling. The universe is going to help me find someone or a modality that I can release this energy. Oh gosh, and here we go.

Speaker 1:

In my morning studies your name was brought up. I reached out to you and here we are and I thought the universe responds. And these are just all synchronicities that I see over and over and over again that I think our minds are incredibly powerful and when we truly believe and we become open to something, the universe can conspire to give you the things that you want. And this conversation, yeah, like this conversation right here, I just thought the second we got on our call before I pressed her cord, I thought, oh my gosh, I am so excited and I just instantly like Vicki has this beautiful calming energy. The second you hear her voice, she's like okay, I could tell you my whole life story.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you can do. You can do darling. Oh yeah, and my fertility journey. I think, as a person, honestly, that's what probably has changed me into someone forever, because I think for any women out there who do unfortunately experience a fertility journey, it does. It's tough, isn't it? It really is.

Speaker 2:

And, matt, mine was 17 years ago and I was on a four year fertility journey and, on paper, my gynecologist actually admitted afterwards that I was never supposed to have any children. I had stage three endometriosis and I think it took about 17 years to be diagnosed with it and it was only diagnosed when I was on my fertility journey because they looked further finally. So, yes, I had, oh, I tried everything, everything going, and I think I was trying. I mean, 17 years ago there wasn't belief code in around, there was an NLP. I did get hypnotised and I do believe that that really helped. I think I was having weekly acupuncture and I'm going to say for a year and a half I was having Reiki, I was having lymphatic drainage and what else was that doing? I would have anything, I would try it, because, oh, I was under a nutritionist, because and I was taking absolutely shed loads of all the right vitamins I used to eat like a rabbit because everything I believed I ate which you know it does all combine into that pie chart, doesn't it? But after five goes of unsuccessful fertility treatment, my husband and I miraculously came into connection with a monk, believe it or not, and he actually, looking back, he really, really, really helped me. He came to me and I didn't realise how stressed I was and I know we had this conversation before we went live that me and my husband actually at this point weren't even connected and I think him coming in, looking as a monk, as an outsider, was like right, I need to get you to connected again, because I was just so low and feeling so overwhelmed and just so useless as a woman, if I'm being honest Especially because it was all there was.

Speaker 2:

You know, when we did the investigation, it was all my body that wasn't working how it should have done and I had two operations. One was major, where I was cut open. This was before I started fertility treatment, actually, and my gynecologist explained that my endometriosis was that severe. Your ovaries were meant to be like little pendants and each of my ovaries were the size of tennis balls, so they had to drain those and my womb and my bowel had molded together so you had to detach those apart. And he said to me I'm going to do everything that you don't want me to do, but for the next six months I think I was only 32 at the time they give me an injection every month that brought the menopause on. So he wanted to give my body a rest from all the horrific monthlies and the bleeding that I went through.

Speaker 2:

So this is, miraculously, when we came in touch for this monk, funnily enough, and he came to see us and he was like, why would a baby want to embody in that womb when your tummy full of all the stress and all the anxiety? And basically he just he told me a few home truths and I was like, oh really. But really, looking back, what he taught me was to go within and give my body the love and nourishment that it was lacking. He kind of reconnected me and my husband together. He had my husband give me a foot massage every night, just a little thing like that, for 30 minutes, and he would massage my feet and we were connecting. We were connecting again and a little, a simple thing like that was just making us connect. I would then go off and do a meditation that he had me doing, which was future visualization at its best. What else was I doing? There was lots of different practices. I would listen to different beats every day because I lived. I had a really stressful job at the time working for my mum, funnily enough so he had me listening to beats every time I felt stressed. So I would just use to walk around putting these beats on all the time. That was calming my frequency and my energy and my body down. So really it was just, it was everything manifestation at its best. And, miraculously, on my sixth go, I actually defied all odds and I felt pregnant. So it was just incredible. So, looking back, yes, anyone can. I believe that anyone can get pregnant, and I was also hypnotized by the monk. So that was amazing.

Speaker 2:

And how belief coding comes into fertility is. I've already created a fertility package of what worked for me, but then I've brought belief coding into it, which is, oh, it's just a game changer, because I can activate fertility DNA codes. We can do that subconsciously. We can ask your subconscious if there's anything blocking the fertility journey and it can't see it or not. So we can actually go from there. We can ask your body within, instead of summarizing and thinking, right, well, this is going on. We go within and ask your subconscious, the client, because your subconscious knows everything. So it's just fascinating. So, by being able to work with the subconscious and the client and ask if there's any energetic blocks that need releasing on this fertility journey oh, just get it again Changer, it's just phenomenal, it really is.

Speaker 2:

So by healing myself on this belief coding journey, transforming into someone I've always wanted to be but didn't have the courage to be. So I'm now living my truthful life and then helping. My passion is obviously fertility, because I know how those women felt and it's just oh, if I can help those on their journey, then my life is fulfilled. It really is, it's just the best feeling in the world. It really is. By releasing beliefs from ladies struggling on a fertility journey that may be unbeknown to them, that they don't even know they hold, but on a subconscious level they believe it. By releasing them and putting new beliefs then into their subconscious, into their psyche, that their subconscious now believes. It's just, oh, it's again Changer, it really is. So yeah, that's what brings me here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that is just absolutely incredible, because here's the thing I can truly say for myself and my own fertility journey yeah, when I started uncovering the feeling of not worthiness, of not being enough, all of that that was so embedded into everything I was doing in my everyday life, yeah, and that's where my passion came from, too is, if you desire to have children, I want you to be able to experience that, and if I can't do it, I wanna be able to connect you with someone that can, because every person I feel deserves to have the thing that they desire.

Speaker 1:

And if you desire to have children, like the joys that I get from having my family, you can't describe other than it's simply incredible to experience the things. Yes, there's hard times. I'm not gonna say that it's all rainbows and butterflies, but the truth is, is that the gratitude I feel every day, because I still do think I'm incredibly lucky and I want people to have what they wanna have, and I think that's what healers do is they just? They look inside and think if I would have had this on my fertility journey, if I would have known you on my fertility journey, if I had a known belief code?

Speaker 2:

yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I just I think that this is so incredible because, depending on listeners, like whoever's listening to this depending on where you are in your fertility journey. It doesn't matter where you're on your fertility journey, it's what we feel. Often you can hear a diagnosis from a doctor and that becomes on repeat in your mind that they could say something like it's gonna be difficult for you to get pregnant because X, y, z, or they could say when it's absorbed.

Speaker 2:

you're saying your subconscious believes it's so we can change that. Yeah, If you change your beliefs, you can change anything in life.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, and I think anyone that is considered geriatric. I think 36 is the age that you're considered geriatric to start fertility. 36 is so young. That's not geriatric at all. But you can hear these things, or just even our society that says, if you don't have a child, like this is your childbearing age. After that it's gonna be difficult. So, with the pressures we put on ourselves the instant, like my biological clock is ticking, mentality that we hold inside of like I have to do this, I have to do this now.

Speaker 2:

It all believes, it's all what's absorbed, it's conditioning, it's what we're told. All these beliefs throughout our lifetime actually are what hold us back in life. So if we can change those on a subconscious level by going to that memory in that moment in time, it's like magic because whether you believe it or not, if we can record your subconscious to believe them, oh my goodness, it's a game changer. It really, really is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think honestly, like this is just I'm beaming. If I wish people could see how, like I get the joy of looking at Vicki on my screen. We're recording over Zoom and I just wish people could see the faces we're giving back to each other of just the big smiles and this, just it fills my heart to be able to connect with other like-minded people but as well with, like the passion that you have to help people is incredible, and the fact that you also apply things to fertility as well is like anyone out there that wants to help people on their fertility journey. You hold a massive part in my heart.

Speaker 1:

And I think it's because fertility has been going on for years upon years upon years centuries even, I guess but it's only more common or more talked about. But I also really like it's just it's still shamed, it's still frowned upon in society that if you have a miscarriage there's something wrong with you or if you can't get pregnant naturally. Yeah, you know, and I just I want people to know that it has nothing to do with you. You didn't ask for your body to do this. No, no, and I think it's so important that anyone listening that gets this message that you can change so much about your life, whether it's through belief coding or a fertility mindset coach or however whatever modality speaks to you. Follow that, because it is absolutely game changing.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and go with what all I can, what I say to people. If you know, if we have like even a discovery chat, I always say I'll maybe teach them a little bit of kinesiology, how we'll do the swear test to go yes and no. So that's how you speak to your subconscious and I said that you've got a life tool now you can use that. You can ask it whether you need these vitamins. You can. You can ask it if you've let lost your car house keys upstairs or downstairs in the house. Your subconscious knows and they're always like oh my.

Speaker 2:

God. This is amazing. And I even say to them, as if to say trust me, it knows everything. I always say after this call even ask your subconscious if you should work with me, because I'm not honest and passionate and genuine and I respect whoever's persons, whatever their subconscious will tell them afterwards because it has all your answers. Nobody else I don't. And you know that the parents are the best friends. Everybody tells us all these things, but if we go within and ask ourselves, our subconscious and our inner self has everything. We just need to trust it.

Speaker 2:

And you know, when you were saying about the miscarriages, my last lovely lady who I've worked with, she she unfortunately had to give birth to her child at 22 weeks and she lost her. And we believe cordial this is just an experience, you won't mind me talking about it and we did three belief cord in sessions on her and her subconscious told us that there was three dominant and trapped emotions we needed to work through. So each session we worked through and and interestingly enough, if you can imagine, your womb is this big, it's, it's tiny. So if you still holding on to all that upset energy in there, it needs to be released. So I think on the first session we went back and we give her everything that she needed and she hadn't even, I think, from six. What happened was she'd she'd she'd given birth to a child, she'd lost the child at 22 weeks and then she had been on a fertility journey for about three years, since Now, energetically, her subconscious didn't find it safe to fall pregnant and we didn't understand that. So we went back to the memory and she she'd never even cried, she'd never released or accepted or sat with her emotions or process them. So I just held a space and she was allowed, she, we allowed her to go back to that more well. Her images took us back to that moment in time and she just processed it all in a mind and give it, give her previous self in a child what it needs in that moment in time. So that was released. So it was really emotional.

Speaker 2:

I held a space for my beautiful client and then we did future vision visualization in the session we recorded in new empowering beliefs, told her body that she could easily fall pregnant, she could easily carry a baby full term. She activated DNA, fertility code, all sorts. We then did the second session and I think we went back to a different memory in that one. And then she was booked in miraculously for a third session and she'd fallen pregnant before the third session. So by releasing I mean hey, I didn't, I didn't do the deed, I held a space from my client, but by holding the space and guiding her to let her heal herself of what needed healing from a few years ago, that then released the energetic block that was there, the trapped emotion.

Speaker 2:

So do you see how it worked on an energetic level? And, yeah, she's just had her 20 weeks scan, so we're super excited and she's really excited. So, absolutely over the moon, yeah, so it's just, it's incredible, it really is. So, yes, it works in all different, in all different forms. And what I believe is, if you can release an energetic shift that doesn't suit your body anywhere, what harm is there from having to go with belief coding because you're going to feel better at the end of that session? No matter what you know and I do believe that you know, like you, we've got to embody and maybe go through these parts of our life so that we can hold the light and support and guide others on their journey and ensure them that it is possible. You know, it is actually possible to get what they truly desire, because we all deserve what we truly desire in life.

Speaker 1:

I honestly feel like we could talk for hours and hours and hours. Let's yes, like honestly. This is and this is how, like gratitude, just honestly steps in my world all the time when I think about before I was open to understanding universal laws or understanding my beliefs. I was walking through life day in and day out. Yes, there was beautiful joys, there was beautiful memories. There was some great highs, some low lows.

Speaker 2:

Oh yes.

Speaker 1:

But it wasn't until you know, just really taking time to understand me, that my world has changed and now I get to have these amazing conversations with people like you and I know go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 2:

I know I'm saying likewise. I'm exactly the same.

Speaker 1:

Yeah it just it's this, this beautiful experience and if, if I looked at my life five years ago, I don't think I would have ever believed that I would be on this path or on this journey and it honestly, I really contribute a lot to the quote that I came across in 2014 when I was starting my fertility journey of your story could be someone else's survival guide that I thought I can't explain why it just it stuck to me and I thought I've always loved helping, I've always been a people here and but just helping has always been the forefront of my heart and I think maybe that's why the quote stuck out to me. And becoming a fertility mindset coach, I used to be very shy, I used to be very quiet and now, like I've always been an open book. I've always had asked me anything. My face used to go beat, read all the time and I would talk to people about things, and now I just think you know what, like I'm here for a purpose, I'm here for a passion and getting to, like, connect with other healers Just it's almost like solidifying that belief that you know there is really amazing people out there and we all have a mission, and it's just it's.

Speaker 1:

It's so I use the word beautiful a lot because I think it is honestly incredible and honestly beautiful and, like my heart, has been so open. And to anyone that's listening, I don't share a lot about my step family life. I don't share. I love my step children. I love that I have a blended family. It brings a lot of diversity into my kids lives and I think we're all better for it. But no matter where you are, whatever walk of life you're going through, there is beliefs that we hold, there is stagnant energy that we can hold in our body and sometimes we can't release it and that's why, as soon as I was talking to you, I'm thinking you can release. Maybe you're the one. Hopefully you can release it.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I would love to. And you know I saw Resonate with what you've just said. I would never have done a podcast. Two years ago, before I started belief coding, I was so shy, I had no beliefs in myself, I didn't even believe I had a story. I was so unworthy I was a shadow of myself. But it's only thanks to belief coding from releasing unwanted, negative, silly beliefs that I believed that's what's brought me here today. So I truly, truly, yes, I believe everything you've said. Yeah, and what you're saying is so true, because we have to share our paths, but sometimes we don't have the confidence and courage to share our paths. So that's where oh, I don't know. That's where belief coding can also come in, because so many people have so many fascinating stories to share if we shared more. And, interestingly enough, my first ever belief coding session that was done on me when we were first just practicing.

Speaker 2:

I had a bad back, a low bad back, and I've suffered with the bad back for about 18 years, on and off Probably it's about 18. And, interestingly enough, my first ever belief coding with my friend, the one who had fibromyalgia from. Interestingly enough, she did a belief coding session on me and it took me back to the pain in my lower back was actually the fertility trauma that I was holding onto. So I had to go back to my memories to give it what she needed in that moment in time, and that was then released, and within a week my back was like, oh, this is really, this is nearly gone, and I was like, wow, and that's when I just became hooked. I was like, oh, my goodness, this is incredible. So, yeah, it's everything we store, whether we realize it on a subconscious level.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and even fears that we hold, that we don't know, yeah, so I, I'm conscious, yeah, like when I know that, like so I've tried to do some inner child work and there is some areas that, like I, just I stop and I go, nope, I'm not going to do that. And I think why, why do I not want to do that?

Speaker 1:

That's your subconscious yes, it's taking a breath and like to be honest because I was holding the feeling of unworthiness for so long. The fear is so great of there's certain areas that I don't want to touch because if I open myself up again to possibly be get hurt again, I don't need to do that and that's why because, again, the universe is this grand thing and this is what I mean. So when I was journaling, like I know that there's a stagnant energy inside and as much as I have my own tools and my own you know things, I am so fascinated to know other modalities that are out there and experience them for myself, because I want to be the best version of me too, for myself, for my family, for my clients and you know, and I think coaches even need coaches because we go through things.

Speaker 2:

Yeah we do. I truly believe that we all made Somebody rooting us on and we all need our own cheerleader, don't we? And there's nothing wrong with that, you know, we all need our own cheerleader. I have two coaches who I switch like who I'm under. So, yes, we do. I truly believe that. Yes, and we all want to be the best part. Well, we all want to try and be the best part. Well, we all want to be the best that we can be, and I often think I'm a healing journey junkie. I always say you know, there's that much to work on, it's forever, and I love it. I think that's the best part of the journey, isn't it? Discovering yourself. It's self-discovery.

Speaker 1:

And I think, even as you step into newer versions of yourself, there's you just discovered more. And then you think, ok, like this is another and it's a beautiful learning journey, it's not this scary thing and it just you know. You ask yourself the questions like OK, now that I've embodied this new version of me, I've awakened to a whole new level of possibilities. And then you think, ok, like I want to keep going, but I'm like you, I'd say I'm a spirituality junkie, in the sense of how can I open myself up and love the purest love and live so authentically that I'm still true to myself and that you know, like just all the things? And when people tell me sometimes I'm a bit too woo-woo, I think that's OK, that's.

Speaker 2:

OK, yes, yes, I would, I would. About a year ago I wouldn't have even admitted I was woo-woo, but now I think I've released that many limited beliefs. It's like, yeah, I am woo-woo, I'm proud of it.

Speaker 1:

I love it. I think it's so incredible to focus on desires and know that it's safe and it's OK to have the things, because, you know, I've heard many of my clients say to me you know, I feel guilty if I want, if I only want to have one pregnancy, that I want to manifest in multiple pregnancy, that maybe it's twins or triplets, and I think, but why do you feel guilty If you were to, if you were to get pregnant naturally, on your own, without fertility treatments, and you got pregnant with twins and you were like, and that's something that you desired, would you feel guilty then? And the answer is no, and it's the confusion when you're going to ask for something, you don't want to ask for too much, and I think I, at least the way I've been taught. The universe doesn't know the difference if you're manifesting a dollar or a million dollars, or you want to manifest one baby or 10 babies, if that's what you desire. But we get so caught up in our mind and in our beliefs that you know I can. I can ask for some things, but I shouldn't ask for everything, because I'm greedy or whatever emotions that come up with that, and I think you are allowed to have everything in anything that you desire. And you know and I think I feel like society needs to hear that and know that it's OK to ask for the things that you want and once you start getting those things, it's OK to keep asking for more.

Speaker 1:

I always, you know, hold the belief that when I'm asking for more, I am still always providing a service that will better people, and that is something that I love to do and that's something that I always want to do, because I guess it's just who I am I love helping. But I think it's OK to want to have a certain amount of money to provide for my family that they can have the life. I think it's OK. And you know, years ago I would have never held that belief.

Speaker 1:

I always thought you know what, if I make, you know, a decent living and you know my kids can get, like bank loans or things like that to pay for their education, that's OK, I'll help them. And now I thought, no, like I have a mission, a goal. I want to help as many people as I possibly can, and I also want to. You know, I want to live this beautiful life too, and it's not money oriented, it's experience oriented Like. I want to have these things with my kids and I want to have their generations, if they choose to have kids to experience that you know your beliefs and what you hold, and understanding the power you hold within yourself can change how you go through school, how you make friends, how you find your partner in life and start living this beautiful life instead of the life that I feel a lot of us live.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I totally, totally agree, and that's so interesting, interestingly enough, I've worked a lot on this on myself of late and with a lot of customers. I do get a lot of clients who do work on money box, interestingly enough, and we do work on them. And again, that's all to do with self worth, because what they're conditioned to think they're worth well, it's the self worth, what they're worthy of. And once we dig a little bit in a session and get a little bit, dig a little bit deeper at the beginning of the session to find out what it is that's really there in a belief, nine times out of 10 money blocks is all to do with self worth. And, yes, everybody, and there's nobody who's entitled to money more than anybody else. We should all just be worthy of what we all desire.

Speaker 2:

I desire financial freedom and I'm now, I can now proudly say that that is my desire. And I love healing people. I love showing my daughter that if you truly do a job, a career that you truly passionate about, where you're helping, and you're in service to God and whatever you believe Christ, the universe but you're helping people, then that's going to make us abundant. By by it puts a roof over our house, like our, our house. I can't speak. We've got a house and we can go on holidays, but in turn I'm helping, doing what I love, I'm helping and healing people and in turn, that's also showing my daughter that if you truly do something that you're so passionate about, look how it helps you in life. Always follow your heart and what we were born to do really, yeah.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, it's true, we shouldn't. We're conditioned to think, oh no, we shouldn't ask too much or, you know, we should talk about it openly. We should, all, you know, desire. We should all have desires and it is safe to have desires and it is safe, you know, to want to ask for what you do truly desire and believe that you are worthy of receiving us. Yes, totally, totally, yes, agree, 100 percent, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

I just love this. Oh, like my cheeks almost hurt because I'm so much. I just I love how, when you become open, the universe can find any way for connections. So anyone that's listening, vicki lives in the UK and I live here in Canada, so we are connecting over, you know, the Internet, over Zoom, yeah, and this is what I mean. I would have never, because I was on just more of a healing journey trying to let go of some things that I know I'm holding blockages of. Yeah, I, I journaled and I wrote and I just stayed open to the idea and, like I mentioned before, you know, you know, you know, you know you're a lady in my, in my morning study group mentioned, you know, vicki, and I thought the instant thought of I need to reach out.

Speaker 1:

I thought I can't ignore this. I have to reach out because there's something telling me and the universe can work in infinite ways to bring people into your life that are meant to be in your life, if it's for a healing session or just beautiful connections. And this is why I love doing what I do, because I get to, I get to talk to women on their fertility journey, not only in my business, but they just even the guests that come on my podcast. They share their success in the fertility world. Because for me, it was a very play. It was a dark place, it was filled with dwindling hope and everywhere I turned and looked I saw pregnant people and I thought, but why isn't this happening to me? And, like Vicki said, in many times a lot of things were tied up in myself, worse, and a lot of things were believing that I didn't think that I was worthy enough or I didn't even think it was possible for me. And changing those beliefs changed so much of my life.

Speaker 1:

And I say this on every episode like I really truly feel like the best is yet to come and it's still like I'm still learning and growing. And I will always feel like I'm still learning and growing Because every part of this excites me and makes me happy and I really believe that every single human being has a message to share and I want I want people to feel that they can share. I want people to change. You know the stereotype or you know what society says about fertility. I don't want to have the stigmas in. You feel like you know you have to go within. If you've experienced a loss on your journey. It's okay to talk about that, it's okay to grieve that, and you don't have to do it privately or quietly in your own home where no one knows about it. And and that is like my mission.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's beautiful, that is so beautiful. Yeah, oh, wow, yeah, that's. Yeah, it's a, it's a funny, it's a funny world, isn't it what society do have us believe? It's. It's sad really, isn't it that? You know we can, we can hear, hear information like this, or, or also, it can be our own mind and our own inner critic. Who, who, who will listen to really? So, yeah, gosh, we could, oh, I could talk to you for hours. Yes, it's like where do we stop? It's a male. It's been really, really amazing to be chatting with you today and I've loved every minute of it. Jessica, thank you so much.

Speaker 1:

Oh you're, you're very welcome.

Speaker 1:

Honestly, like I it, I feel I can't even put into words that the the gratitude that I'm feeling that you're here with me today and anyone that's listening.

Speaker 1:

In the show notes I will put all the links to lucky, to Vicki, social media and and how you can find her if you feel called to connect with her. She truly is an incredibly beautiful soul and I am I'm being completely transparent. When we get off this call, I'm going to ask when to book an appointment so I can have a session, because this is just, you know, when you have a connection and I just I feel honored that I get to be in your energy and your space right now and that, if I can share you with anyone that's listening to this podcast that feels called to seek you out, please, anyone like I believe that there is more than enough for every single person in this world. I don't believe in competition. I believe in that if, anyway, I can help someone, even if it's if it's sending them someone else, that is, that is my mission. I've done something to direct you in the right way.

Speaker 2:

Likewise, likewise and you know, that's the amazing thing about the belief code in community we all have each other's back. There's no competition. I think, because we've all believed, quartered ourselves so much, we realize that everybody resonates with different people and that's okay, it's just amazing. As a healer, you're just happy that somebody is getting healed and we're changing the world by healing people's beliefs, whether it be your session or my session as a healer, that is what. That is all we want, isn't it really? So that is just incredible. But, yes, I totally agree. Yeah, I love it, yeah, and, and I'm the same, you know, we all bring different things to this world and I believe there's more than enough room for us all here.

Speaker 2:

It's just amazing that we're all I think we're all uniting in the world. I think there's a big change, isn't there? There's a big energetic change that we are collaborating and, you know, respecting each other's work and admiring and trying different works and modalities, and I love that. That's how it should be. We shouldn't be. I don't agree with, yeah. Or when people are in competition. Yeah, there's enough. There's enough healers out there to heal different people and we all resonate with different souls in this lifetime and that's okay, isn't it that is okay.

Speaker 1:

And I honestly believe like we all have our own take in our own spin. So even if it's the exact same information how I say something could be very different than another fertility mindset coach or you and believe coding how what you bring to the table is different than someone else. Yeah, and I agree 100%. No matter how someone is getting healed to step into their desired life or their highest or truest self, I just want to get you there, because you know the most interesting thing that I heard as of late.

Speaker 1:

I've been on like a physical healing journey and someone said to me that I feel like I'm tongue tied. I'm not going to get it exactly the way I want to say the whole point was is that you don't know how good you're supposed to feel until you actually feel that good and you think, how have I not lived this way my whole life? And you know when you wake up with aches and pains or you know, for me it's my hormones, they're I'm, I'm trying to heal all of those things and as I'm healing them and my body is starting to respond differently, I thought I feel better than I think I've ever felt before me and, almost 38 years old, I'm finally feeling good for the first time and thinking If, if I again, if I can get someone at age 17 to feel as good as I feel and carry that through their life, I'll gladly send you to know, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I agree, I agree, yeah, wow, wow. And it's actually changed, isn't it? I think that's what some people and I just yeah, and it changed.

Speaker 1:

and that's the thing. Some people are very comfortable living in their life that they don't desire because the thought of change is far too scary. Or you know what, when I first started changing, I did have an honest thought of like, as I'm changing, am I going to lose friends? Am I not going to resonate with my family? Am I? And you just think like maybe I shouldn't, and I think no people that are meant to come and stay.

Speaker 2:

They'll stay with you and some of them, yes, they do drop off along the way and it does, I think, take a little bit to digest that. But you start to understand and be grateful that they were. They were there just for part of your healing journey and that's okay. You know, it is all okay if we do. You know change, if people do love you and they're meant to be in your life, then they will stay with you. And change is good. Growth is good. We're meant to grow throughout our lifetime. We're not meant to stay the same, are we? We're meant to evolve and, yeah, we are. We're constantly evolving, I think, and change is good. But, yes, some people are, some people are a little bit frightened to change, I think. Yeah, interesting.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, but I think I also just think about the generations to come, how they're going to change. The more people that choose to focus on desires Like the things that I'm teaching my, my three little kids right now, at two and a half and eight. They are going to be so different and growing up with it, whereas I started learning this at 29.

Speaker 1:

And I think you know like how much has my, my world changed, starting to understand it and now embodying it and doing so much more with it. And I think you know, when my kids, if they choose to have kids, how they will grow up with it from day one versus, you know, starting at age eight or age two or whatever age, and I just I get excited thinking about how we are creating a ripple effect with people and getting them to think differently, getting them to feel differently and teaching them. It's okay, it's okay to have the things that you want, it's okay to you know, live the life the way you want to, and it's okay to stand up for yourself. If maybe you're in an undesired situation, you don't have to quiet down, you don't have to, just you know be quiet.

Speaker 2:

Yes, because, yeah, yeah, you don't have to feel stuck Sometimes. Yeah, we feel that you know you have to. You have to just have a particular life, but you don't have to Again, they're just all your inner beliefs, aren't you? Yes, I agree, I agree so much.

Speaker 1:

So, anyway, we will end this episode just because I feel like we will go on and on and on. I absolutely love everything that we're saying. So thank you so much for being here with me today and sharing your energy. You're so welcome. So, anyway, have an amazing day. I will.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, and you too Thank you very much. Thank you.

Speaker 1:

If you found this helpful or know anyone that needs to hear this, please share and don't forget to leave a review and subscribe. In love and gratitude, Jessica.